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Home My WebLink AboutDistrict 11 Minutes 1951-07-18MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING BOARD OF DIRECTORS COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT NO.1]. OF ORANGE COUNTY,CALIFORNIA July 18,1951 at 8~OO p.m. Board.of Supervisors~RÔ0Q Cou.rt House Santa Ana,Ca1iforni~ The Board of DireQtors of County Sanitation District No.•.~ met in regalar session. The joint meeting of the district boards was called to order by Chairman Braden pinch at 8:10 p.m. Directors present:Willis H.Warner (Chairman) Jack Greer Vernon E.Langenbeck Directors absent:None Others present:Nelson M.Launer,Administrative Of f leer Nat H.Neff,Engineer B.J.Marks,Attorney Harry Ashton,Attorney Fred D,Bowlus i~,J..Harrison,Consulting Engineer J.A.Woolley,Consulting Engineer John A.Carollo,Consulting En~in~er Robert M.Br~reton Mr.Erwin Ora Mae Merritt,Secretary •~.1— ‘S ..I Qhairman Pinch called the joint meeting of the District Boards to order at 8:10 o.m. The roll was called and the Secretary reported a quorum Dresent for all Dis~rict Boards,except County Sanitation District No,8. MINUTES OF A motion was made,duly seconded and. ME:TING HELD carried.,by the Boards of Directors of ON.JULY 11,1951 County Sanitation Districts Nos.1,2,3, 5,6,7 and 11,approving the minutes of the meeting held on July 11,1951,as mailed out. Chairr~an Pinch called upon the Administrative Officer for his report to the Directors. ADMINISTRATIVE Mr.Nelson M.Lau.ner,Administrative OFFICER’S REPORT Officer reported.: Marine As instructed by minute order on July lip Exploration 1951,h~and.Mr.Bowlus had secured.pro— Firms posals from various marine exploration firms and.had.inspected their equipment and.made a report to the Executive Committee on July 17, 1951;and as instructed by the Executive Committee,had. requested the legal counsel to prepare resolutions for the consideration of the District Boards.Mr.Launer stated that inasmuch as the work should.be done during the months of august and September,he recommended that the Boards authorize the work at this meeting. Mr.Launer stated that Mr.Bowlu.s would give a report.on the marine exploration work later in th~evening. Chairman Finch called UDon Director Boney for the Executive Committee’s report to the Directors. REPORT OF THE Director Robert H.Boney,Chairman of CHAIRMAN OF the Executive Committee,reDorted: THE ExECUTIVE COMMITTEE Proposals That Mr.Bowlus and Mr.Launer submitted. Submitted various proposals they had secured.from marine exploration firms.These proposa were reviewed at the meeting of the Executive Committee Tuesday evening,July 17th.Ai~this meeting Mr.Bowlus -led a general discussion on the work to b9 d.on~and made the following recommendations: 2-. 2G0 1,Prom the following four proposals selected as the best qualified,firms,that the work be given to the lowest bidder,the B C &H Company: Newport Dredging Company quoting $l4~32.00 per day Smith—Rice Derrick Barges I’$Li~59.00 11 B C &H Company $376.85 “~ Smale &Robinson,Inc.II $825.00 ~H 2.That Mr.Dan Boom be employed.as the su.’perintend.ent on the marine exploration job for the Districts at compensation of $i,ooo~00 per month. 3.That the work be performed by authority of a purchase order,specifically naming the numbe~’of men the marine exploration firm will use,hours per day, equipment to be used,insurance to be carried by vendor,time limitations and other pertinent detail. Mr.Bowlus stated that he believed use of a purchase order a much better method than by contract. In the general discussion of these recommendations,Mr. Bowlus stated that it cannot be determined now how many days th~work will take,nor exactly what work will have to be done;and that he believed the most satisfactory supervision of the job would be for the Districts to em~lo~ their own man to check the vendor~s ec,uipment,see that qualified men are doing the wor1~and to compile permanent records to be used in the design.Mr.Bowlus stated that he recommended.Mr.Boom,who has had a great deal of experience in this type of work and would be able to check the equipment,progress of the work and would know what the divers were doing,a~he goes down himself when there is any indication that the work is not being performed i.n the proper manner,Also,that Mr.Crane of the B C &H Company knows Mr.Boomts work and knows the standard. that would have to b~maintained,under his supervision. Mr,Bowlus told the Committee that if the District Boarclb —3— 2~1 adopt his recommendations at this meeting,the work can be start~.~d on July 30,1951 and would be oomp1ete~.in 25 or 30 work~.ng days,de-oending uoox~the findings as the work progresses, In the general discussion that followed th~q~estion~were raised as to whether Mr.Bowlus proposed.to secure und.iat~~rb~d samples for the design;and why the pro~osals submitt~d were so far beLow the quotations previously received,which were in the n~igbbor hQQd.of $1300.00,Mr.Bowlus stated that the method he proposa~. would deviate from the specifications of the consulting enginc~crs in that undisturbed corings would not be obtained ~b~t that a~ accurate profile of the inshore rock section would b~obtainc~d by using the water jet method.This would be augmented.b~jack—hamrnereC borings at intervals which he believed would provide sufficient information for th~design of the outfall sewer;that this method. would considerably lower the cost of the work to be d.one.That the proposed method of doing this would be to get a barge arid a diver to walk along and make holes to see where the rock is located;that ~he r~port on the speed the jack—hammer goes down will determine ~e hardness or softness of the ground underneath;and that his thought on the foundations is that there would not have to be as rigid a structure as would be required for a bridge or a dam where the concentration is two thousand or three thousand pounds per square fQot. Djrector War~ier raised the question as to whether the method proDosed by Mr.Bowlus was ~atisfactory to th~consulting engineers. M~Carollo stated.~hat he had.hot reviewad.~che !neth9d proT)r~sea by Mr.~ow1us;and that he believed.that the Dist~~s had ethpl~yed their fIrms to do th~design of the ~reatm~nt t~LEth~and the dutfall sewer and.,a~they beii~,ed they ~frere tâ ‘be pai~d ~‘b~~he ~u~erv~s~.oni ana gathei~Ing ~f i~fo~ma,t~oi~théywoi~l~like the o ~t~.nity to go ovex~the informatton with Mr.~owiu.~t Mr~~âwj.us s~atea tia~t he contacted both Mr,Harrison and Mr.Woolley oil Monday aft~rhoon,July 16th and.discussed.the method he had präpOsed.~ Mr.Carollo stated.that they had not aeen the bids,and while he did.not question the process1 he thought it rather an unusual Drocedure that the consulting engineers had not been reauested to submit their recommendation;that they held.the responsibility on the Droject which involves a considerable amount of money and.becaus of this responsibility would want to go over the details before they would want to make a recommendation t~the Directozs.That he believed that this matter should be discussed with Mr.Ribal and the consulting engineers to get it ironed out. 262 D4rec4c!~aegen~ee~-pfeesed—the~o~i~i~n—t&a4 4k~e eo~1.U~g ~empl~yed’-tè ~o—ti~e-werk,p1a~drrt~a4 the ~ eoaH ~o.~ahead,-w*th -the eamp~it~ge an&~eporte wh4ch the eo4~al4i~g ~ezt~iReere wo~ã wa~t-later7 Direqtor Lapgenb~o~ç~xpresse~tha opipion that tI~co~su?ting enginqe~s have beep empl~y~to do this t~ork a~hAs ~ptpio~0f them wou~4 su~e~i~4?i~hey J~et someon~eJ,se go ahead w1tI~this wQrlc, ~rectcr ~nch 9~eted.~4tet hp wa~~ndep th~impp~si9n that the qonsfl~in~engi~e~s~ad,been g~viqed of the prqceed~qg~an~,that they ~U ~e~n cqmp~,~Q~y i~flprmeft or~these matters~ A ‘n-p~ieq wp~m~4p by T1~rep~or WiJlis ~La~pr1 peconded,by ~irector Jac1~G~’ee~the’~th?~epornmen4atiqns rn~dA by Mr.~ow~s be ~to ~he Adminip~ative Officer,Mr~Bowlus and the engineers to work oat the details and a reDort submitted at the next meeting. Cha~rrpan ~inch pte~e~tha ~h~had been inçormed by the legal counpel that there was a p~tter of legality ipvolved.in using the p~r~h~se order ~,nstead of a contract with the marine extioration firm~~pd,tit Mr.Bow),up 1~ad inforjed the Chai~-that the purchase erder !netbpP is in use by the Los Apg~les County San~ation Dietricts ~ez~woric çf ~hts hind.,Chairman Finch called upop J~d,ge Marks for ap exo~anat ion of the ~*W he had reü~-red. J~d1g~Mañcs stated ~ig~the work I4~.~qwlus prqp~ses calls for a cornnlèUqp ~ond and tha~~4bubted if a banding company would give bond pn work ~hat did pot snecify what they ‘~pre bonding;that the i~suat prpçed’~irç is to eend a cony of the contract to the bonding comnany~toy~ever,~p the ~,ns~apq~of the Los Angeles Co~nty Sanitation ~.Distri,cts it may be that their purchase order amounts to a cent r’iot. ~gene~a~.discussion was hpld upon the legality pf a purchase Pirec~or Lar elbepis stdlt th~it i~was the ~ractice of his ~City to use the v~rchase or4er,Mhieh carried the same re— ~pon~bi1itie~and.penalties ac contract,1~r B~vrlus stated,that the advantage of’the purchase order over p,coqtract is that in the event the won is not satjpfactory,by pp.rchase order the woTk can he disoontin~ed,while ~ccp~ract would haveto be broken, Upon a inpti~on made,d~zlysecond,ed,and carried,the Chairman d,~cla~ed the merting adjo~ned,at 8:35 n.m. Chairman,Board of Mrectors Coi~inty Sanitation District No.11 Orange County,California ‘p Secr~~ty,~oard.~Iflirectors ~oard of ~t~ectorp County San~thtion District t~o.lTh Orange Qo’~pt~Ce~i~op~a